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DieselPower
02-25-2009, 07:59 PM
I have a few questions about the new XR1.

1. How do you get 54Mb/s at 180MHz?
2. Can an AP deliver the same amount of bandwidth to 20 clients as say a XR2?
3. I'm looking at the FCC site trying to find the proper license, any pointers?
4. Antenna recommendations???
5 Any way to get in on the beta testing?

I think my guess is as good as any other on range and valley penetration as anyone else's at this point. You can bet I'm going to be giving these a try, we have some very tricky terrain here...

I guess that's it for now. but I'd love to do some serious real-world testing on these, and report back.

LS.

tamahome
02-26-2009, 02:17 AM
same like DieselPower, Im very interesting as a WISP solution. Im having issues at 900Mhz, even its NLOS I need some altitude on the client side and its imposible to get a decent link getting the AP at 40mts high and the CPE at 3mts at 5km with houses, factories and 30mts trees in between

Also would like to know about the price to see if its economically reliable. Would it only be supported by Routerstation boards?

DieselPower
02-26-2009, 05:38 AM
Would it only be support by Routerstation boards?


No, these will work in anything with mini-pci. I'm using mostly mikrotik, with a few alix boards here and there.

tamahome
02-26-2009, 05:43 AM
very nice I have a RB333 waiting for it then =)

mobilexpi
02-26-2009, 09:05 PM
1KM indoor OMG!! If it works for WISP, it's a 3G killer :D

A question, what happen if the 180-280MHz band is licensed in my country and I use it anyway?

DieselPower
02-26-2009, 09:19 PM
I don't know what country you are in, but if the FCC has anything to do with it, it can be bad. At the very least, they will seize all your equipment, and possibly impose huge fines. Very embarrassing for a wisp:oops: Then you could have customer suing you, and no chance to ever start up again. Look at some of the FCC cases, you will shake!

Just get a licence :wink:

mobilexpi
02-26-2009, 09:33 PM
I'm in Chile, but here the telco license for radio spectrum are extremely expense, like 500.000 to 1million,

DieselPower
02-26-2009, 11:04 PM
I have spent hours on the FCC site, and have not been able to find a band suitable for the XR1 in the US. Hopefully Ubiquity knows something we don't, but it does not look to promising.

UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-27-2009, 09:48 AM
I have spent hours on the FCC site, and have not been able to find a band suitable for the XR1 in the US. Hopefully Ubiquity knows something we don't, but it does not look to promising.

Hey Guys,

This card is mainly for OEM licnesed applications, and would not be legal for the general public in the US.

Thanks,

Mike

tamahome
02-27-2009, 10:00 AM
Im not in US =)

dlisman
02-27-2009, 10:03 AM
What is the ETA for product shipment? We do alot of telemetry monitoring for the local water depts. in the area and this card would be exactly what we are looking for to intergrate into our product.

UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-27-2009, 11:00 AM
Hey Guys,

For interest for this please email ben.moore@ubnt.com

Thanks,

Kozuch
03-03-2009, 01:29 AM
This card might have some serious potential for use as ICT4D in developing countries and third world generally...

However, I am wondering about the 802.11a throughput on a 20-times smaller frequency too. If the throughput is true, the price might easily skyrocket...

WHT
03-03-2009, 05:41 AM
I have spent hours on the FCC site, and have not been able to find a band suitable for the XR1 in the US. Hopefully Ubiquity knows something we don't, but it does not look to promising.
Yup...There isn't anything you could use it for in the U.S., other than biomedical telemetry.

DieselPower
03-05-2009, 08:48 PM
Yup...There isn't anything you could use it for in the U.S., other than biomedical telemetry.

Ehm, lets see, maybe that's what I'm doing here... :oops:

timmay
03-07-2009, 06:12 AM
Anyone know if this radio could be used in the UK to provide broadband to hard to get to places. I.E places where 5Ghz doesn't cover due to trees and buildings. The license would have to be very low cost though.

UBNT-Mike.Ford
03-09-2009, 03:02 PM
I believe this spectrum is not available in the UK.

Thanks,

Mike

WHT
03-10-2009, 07:33 AM
kewlkeed...

Ask Mike what UBNT research that showed there is a market or application that drove the development for the SR1.

UBNT-Mike.Ford
03-10-2009, 11:42 AM
Wow...

Now I'm not happy...
Sorry but this is a huge waste of time and effort as far as I'm concerned. There isn't a person on this planet except for some small third world country (Even that I'm not sure) who will be able to legally use one of these. I honestly can't name you a major country who can use one of these, even if you were to go and try and license one there just would be no way for the bandwidth. Call the FCC or Industry Canada and ask if you'd like to be laughed at.

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous how things like the 900Mhz and polling protocols are being thrown on the back burners for something like this that will probably never have any serious practical use in the real world.

Ugh sorry for being negative. But there's just no practical (Legal) application for these things for 99% of the market, while 99% of the rest of us are foaming at the mouth for some form of polling or 900Mhz support.

Hello,

There are quite a few large OEM's with licensed applications, and more then a few countries where the use of these cards are legal outside of the WISP industry.

Thank you,

Mike

Ron
03-16-2009, 02:20 AM
If the throughput is true, the price might easily skyrocket...

Don't expect much, judging by the performance of the XR9 at 900 MHz.

UBNT-Mike.Ford
03-16-2009, 03:12 PM
If the throughput is true, the price might easily skyrocket...

Don't expect much, judging by the performance of the XR9 at 900 MHz.

Most user's are achieving around 21Mbps aggregate on XR9 links.

Thanks,

Mike

tamahome
03-16-2009, 04:33 PM
so What is the average on XR1?

Ron
03-16-2009, 05:21 PM
If the throughput is true, the price might easily skyrocket...

Don't expect much, judging by the performance of the XR9 at 900 MHz.

Most user's are achieving around 21Mbps aggregate on XR9 links.


Mike, I'm by no means saying the XR9 is a bad product. I'm simply stating that the throughput of a 20 MHz channel is less than that of a 20 MHz channel at 5.8 GHz.

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