NEW WISP hardwre recommendations

[komputatatek]

I initially posted this in another forum then I discovered this one [by scrolling down].

I'm seriously investigating putting up a WISP system for farmers in my area. My backhaul will be wireless for about 17 miles. I plan to use external dish antennas for this. I was thinking I could use NS2s for this, but read in the forum that they don't support many users. I plan on allowing 3 levels of service. 1.5mb, 1mb, & 512kb. I was also going to use this same setup to re-broadcast this signal out to my clients.

I'm been planning around 2.4Ghz. and locking it down with MAC addressing. I have 2 units using NS2s with TILTEK TA-2304 external antennas for access points to my customers. I would also use the NS2s as customer end points.

Bear in mind, all this equipment is lying in my shop waiting for better weather to install. Now is the time to make change.

Now I've been reading about the Bullet 2HP units and Power station 2 and the more I read the more confused I get.

Basically I want to build a system that is reliable, cost effective, &, above all, I'm not tearing out cause it's wrong (don't we all?)

Admittedly I'm a noob at this so I'm looking for some advise on how it should be setup.

I've been reading through some of the forums all day and am very impressed with the knowledge floating here.

Thanks

[mwils51]

komputatatek - I hope you don't mind me tagging along on your thread.

I am also very interested in what sounds like a similar configuration. I live out in the country surrounded by farmers. They really need internet access and the ones that do have access are using (stuck with) wildblue. I also need to run internet to my house.

I already have a 50' tower at my house and I have a friend with internet at his house 3.5km away that has already agreed to let me run a bridge from his house to mine (which would also be the backhaul).

I am also a noob at this, but I have read it is best to run the backhaul with 5ghz so it will not have interference with the CPE (assuming it is 2.4ghz). So I am thinking I need to run a pair of Ubiquiti PowerStation5 for the backhaul and to gain internet at my house.

The CPEs will be at most 5-6km from my house and maybe upto 10 of them. I am baseing that on there being about 50 houses in that distance from me, but I know 5 that will be easy sells (they go to my church and are good friends). I am thinking I should use nanostation2 as CPE.

I am not sure what I should use for APs. Maybe 2 or 3 Powerstation2s? or maybe some APs I could hook to sector antennas?

I know there are many other unanswered questions and it is no where near as simple as just plugging all this in. I still need to figure out what to do with billing and email and a server and some sort of switch and no telling what else I am leaving out. But it would be great to get input from an expert here on this forum their thoughts of a list of the pieces pieces required for a small setup like this. :-)

[WHT]

komputatatek...

17 miles for a backhaul is no problem with the PS5. That 30-35 user limit only applies to connected stations to a multipoint AP...your backhaul link will only have one connected station

It appears your service area doesn't have any clusters of users, rather they appear all scattered out...so three NS radios would support at least a hundred users.

Also, you might be better off with mounting the radios at the top corner of the house eaves, instead of at ten feet like you figured.

[komputatatek]

WHT,

Thanks for all you've done. My 10ft antennas actually was based on the eave or top of roof on a ranch home. Actually I was was just guessing. I've never installed one of these kind of antennas and am planning on doing a lot of experimenting before installing for customers.

By the looks of the map you drew my actual coverage would be about 5 miles (or less). Did I read it right? If this is the case What sort of antenna placement would you recommend? I was hoping for a 10 mile umbrella of coverage.

mwils51,

I have a Linksys RV082 I plan to use. I currently have all my hardware setup in my shop and am running configurations, scenarios, test, etc. So far I like what I see, but would love to learn more; for instance what configuration should I use with the firewall?

I've heard of problems with clients browsing the network and seeing, even accessing other clients systems like a LAN environment. How do i shut that down?

So much to learn and I'm hungry

[WHT]

komputatatek...

That was plotted for a 24 Mbps data throughput -86 dBm receiver sensitivity), let me re-run the plots with 6 Mbps (-94 dBm) as that would give you 3 Mbps end user speeds...twice the 1.5 Mbps of your fastest tier you'll be offering.

It looks like you'll still have terrain shadows at five miles with clients at 20 feet. Taken the clients up to 30 feet doesn't really improve things.

PM sent with new map.

[WHT]

I've heard of problems with clients browsing the network and seeing, even accessing other clients systems like a LAN environment. How do i shut that down?
Make sure "client isolation" at the AP is turned on.

Are you going to build you own CALEA server from scratch or just buy an appliance?
http://askcalea.com/
http://www.fcc.gov/calea/

[komputatatek]

Ok. Now you've got me off center and honestly I don't understand what CALEA is. I looked at the links yo sent me and on the face it would seem that I need to report my compliance, but I need to understand what the compliance requirements in plain language are.

The sad part about this thing is that i searched and searched the internet for something like this a year ago 'cause someone told me to make I was govt. compliant. I NEVER found this!

The only thing I ever found was a requirement to save email IF I had been served by an officer of the court.

Were can I learn more about CALEA and other regulations (plain language)?

Would somebody please publish a white paper on "How to" for (W)ISP.