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Wifi442
01-09-2009, 10:56 AM
For those of you not fortunate enough to have the perfect location on your own property for your AP what does Mtn. tower space run on avg? I'm sure it's pretty random from place to place but I thought I would ask. I have a few friends and family on the other side of a ~1000' hill and there are several towers up there. It would be a perfect place for 2 NS5's as a repeater but I'm sure the cost wouldn't be justified for hooking up 5 or 6 houses but you never know :roll:

WHT
01-10-2009, 04:10 AM
Most likely not. So you get say $50 per month from each house, thats $3250 to $300 per month. Since tower rental is often based on how high up the tower you go (and perhaps number of antenna you install), you may ask then how much to just mount a PS2-EXT (one omni antenna) just high enough to clear the tree line.

"It never hurts to beg...." is what my dogs think when I'm fixing dinner.

rconaway
01-11-2009, 10:24 AM
I have found that talking to them and explaing your revenue stream seemed to heop a lot. It also helps if you are willing to use frequencies they will probably never sell to anyone else. For example, if you can use 5.2GHz, they probably will give it to you at bottom dollar. Make sure you carry insurance to fix the other guys equipment if you damage something else on the tower during your installation. We hung that bill on Alltel for their idiot installes putting too many guys on a tower one day and taking down our PTP.

rodneal
01-26-2009, 07:51 AM
I have built all my own towers - Rohn25-65. Find a person that wants free service and put up a 100 foot tower and away you go. I have 70 of them in 5 counties around the Tampa Bay area.
If the tower belongs to the property owner and he gets his access via that tower then you are not restricted by zoning or deed restriction but in fact protected by the FCC.
Also - we have wind generation on a few and are rolling out solar and wind on the rest and that protects under the Dept of Ag for renewable energy structures + here in Florida state law now says that any upgrade for renewable energy is not to increase the property value at all.
Ya gotta think outside the box - your paradigm is gonna shift here.
Rod

gregpalmer
01-30-2009, 06:52 PM
What's the story on deed restriction exemption? source??

rodneal
01-30-2009, 07:18 PM
What's the story on deed restriction exemption? source??


Hey Greg,
Here is the FCC fact sheet - they do a better job then me.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

Rod
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WHT
01-30-2009, 07:41 PM
In almost all of the city zoning codes I have run up against, they have restrictions of some sort or the other that contradict the OTARD rule.

If you want to put up a satellite TV or broadband dish of less then one meter, they cannot ultimately stop you. They can serve you with a code violation, but all you have to do is file a complaint with the FCC. The only exceptions are its on a historically preserved location or there are specific safety issues (of which they have to prove there is an issue - they can't indiscriminately claim its an issue).

If you want to put up a guyed twenty foot mast, they can't stop you (most cities don't allow guyed towers).

While you could usually obtain a code variance, its much easier to nip it in the bud.

They can prohibit it if the mast is over twenty feet as the OTARD only protects you up to that height.

rconaway...

Unfortunately ch.36 (5.180 GHz) to ch. 48 (5.225 GHz) are for indoor only and ch. 52 (5.260 GHz) to ch. 52 (5.32 GHz) are limited to 30 dBm EIRP...period. There is no PtP higher antenna gain provision.

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