900mhz Bullet?

[lunchboxrts]

Any plans of doing a 900mhz version? :lol:

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Hey Lunch,

Not at this time.

Thanks,

Mike

[lunchboxrts]

Hey Lunch,

Not at this time.

Thanks,

Mike

Dang! 900mhz solves so many link problems in my area. Thanks for the quick reply Mike.

[Wolfie001]

that would be rather handy (as i understand) i have pleces with alot of trees, i wouldent mind useing a 900 mhz bullet as simple CPE.

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Hey Guys,

I believe its a size limitation on this.

Thanks,

Mike

[WHT]

After all...Size matters! <-- Joe Nichols, III album, Size Matters (Someday)

[rconaway]

No, size doesn't matter. It's where you put your antenna so you have clean LOS. It's important to do a site survey first.

[wispwest]

now that part of the 700Mhz band is unlicensed, this would be ubitquiti's time to make a 700Mhz carrier-class bullet. We are going to try it, but for now we have to use the Ubiquiti Athero's based card in a Mikrotik Routerboard.

[gregpalmer]

What part of 700 MHZ is unlicensed??? US???? details???

[rconaway]

None. The best option is going to be whitespace devices below 900MHz. God forbid the government give the smaller guys a chance in the 700MHz band. I checked my Christmas fund but couldn't go any higher than 4 billion on the last auction so Verizon got it.

[wispwest]

FCC Approves Unlicensed Use of White-Space Spectrum

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/05/0016251&from=rss

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

No plans for a Bullet 700mhz at ths time.

Thanks,

Mike

[rconaway]

You know Mike, after thinking this through a little more, I think you need a 900MHz bullet. We are going to have issues with trees in muni wireless locations that need backhaul of 1bout 1/4 through trees. If an NS2/5 can't get through there, an omni 900MHz might. Keep it in mind. We are going to start proposing muni wireless networks again with a couple small towns now that IWAHN is dying and New York's statewide 2 Billion Ma/Com is about to get canceled.

[jacobsuter]

You know Mike, after thinking this through a little more, I think you need a 900MHz bullet. We are going to have issues with trees in muni wireless locations that need backhaul of 1bout 1/4 through trees. If an NS2/5 can't get through there, an omni 900MHz might. Keep it in mind. We are going to start proposing muni wireless networks again with a couple small towns now that IWAHN is dying and New York's statewide 2 Billion Ma/Com is about to get canceled.

I loved the excuse of "it won't fit". I'd think the least of the product cost/design concerns would be the size of the plastic housing?

Personally I think the problem is there's only about 500 million people worldwide that can legally use the "north american style" 900 and 700 spectrum. I want to say there's like 5.4 billion-ish people that can use 2.4 and 5.8.

Now, when thinking 900 and omnis you have to start considering filters and other equipment that definitely makes 900 a lot less attractive than it initially appears. A decent 900 cavity filter's cost is about equal to that of an XR9, an RB411A, a waterproof box, and a power supply.

Out here, even at reasonable altitude, the pager traffic around 930 absolutely annihilates 900 vpol. 900 hpol can be used with the right antennas, carefully aimed around the worst noise producers. When you start having to consider using these on both ends of the link, the prices get a bit insane considering you're still susceptible to in-band interference and, at best, limited per-area throughput due to the minuscule quantity of available spectrum.

My opinion is - either start getting reasonable LOS, start digging fiber, or both.

[DieselPower]

jacobsuter, I disagree. I use 900MHz here because we have no interference with it. I can get about three times the coverage with 900 compared to my 2.4G system. Fiber or LOS is NOT feasible. Many small steep hills, in a very rural area. It would probably take 20 miles of fiber for 12 to 15 people. and an access point in any location can hit about 5 stations LOS. so either would be terribly cost prohibitive.

Now I would personally LOVE a Bullet9. It would cut my cost and complexity by a lot. Currently I'm paying 218ish for the equivalent hardware (RB411 and XR9 Die Cast enclosure + pigtail + cat5 pigtail) so I would love to see a Bullet9 for less than 150. Every one of my customers would be getting one.

[rconaway]

Actually, even with the interference in the city, there area many other applications. In addition, you can always run filters for the 930 interference.

Two applications I have used 900MHz was shooting across an apartment complex to provide internet at a pool. Had to go through 2 buildings. No other options. I run a 10MHz channels. System works great and has been up over a year.

Had to shoot a mile across an airport and through a huge manufacturing plant. Same result.

Future applications - municipal wireless where hops are impeded by a high-density of trees or buildings due to curvature of the road. In that case, for 800', I don't think I'm going to be getting a lot of interference issues due to strength of signal. It's not a cheap way to go but I will take expensive over impossible any day of the week.

[sanchez12rus]

This is best product! :D

[aqk]

Just thought I'd add my vote for a 900 MHz bullet.
Lots of trees in my neighbourhood, and come to think of it, with all this "greening", more and more trees are being planted, even in rural environs believe it or not.
Other than that, what would I need to set up an inexpensive PtP system,good for about 6 miles or so?
Cheapest Tranzeo 900 I've seen is about $500 each...

[Frotihngdog.ca]

I think a dual-pol PS9-EXT would much more effective. Give people the option of adding what ever ANT to it they like, but it would still need to be under the $200 mark. $175 would be good.

[wispwest]

I need to add my vote for a 900Mhz bullet too! I can only imagine a Bullet9 HP in Complience Test mode!

[kc0eqf]

I have over 100 customers that would buy one right away! I really hope that you decide to make one!

[russman]

900Mhz Bullet
I have over 100 customers that would buy one right away! I really hope that you decide to make one!

My vote as well.

[Ward Dorrity]

I've had a lot of experience with AvaLAN 900 mHz products. We use them in pit locations where we have poor line of sight due to aggregate pile growth (we're a construction materials company). They work very, very well. But - and it's a big one - AvaLAN gear has two big caveats:

1. relatively low bandwidth. 1.5 mbps is all you get.
2. cost - a pair with antennas is about $1K.

So if you have a handful of devices at the other end of the link, like some IP phones a few workstations, you're going to overwhelm that 1.5 mbps link on a regular basis.

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Hey guys,

We will have a 900Mhz integrated product in the AirMax lineup sometime around Q2 of 2010.

Thanks,

Mike

[rv4pilot]

Hey its third quarter of 2010. No news on a 900 mhz Bullet. Anyone listening?

[jcrites2008]

Hey its third quarter of 2010. No news on a 900 mhz Bullet. Anyone listening?

900 rocket and 900 nano loco are the only 2 cpes that will be available at launch. Could be more later as the 365 line is expanding now.

[bec]

I need XR9 Bullets. That would be great!