Recovering Lost Posts

[FreenetAntennas]

Guys,

If you have lost important posts after the big forum disk crash, try this:
- Google for something that should find your post
- Click on the CACHED link
- You may get it back - before Google clears their cache.

Good luck.

Rob

[Nanflexal]

raid 1+0 can help this kind of dissaster if in-place.

[NZFoxnet]

Raid is not the answer these days, esp with bigger and bigger hdd's. Rebuilds simply take to long and you can lose a second disk easily in that time..... From experience.

Distrubuted storage is better these days, even to the point of using replication and heatbeat to also minimise downtime.

Mike

[Nanflexal]

there is alot of option if the web hosting company are willing to invest in storage. e.g SAN

[wifimedic]

We use and love www.R1soft.com
they are great to deal with.

If anyone here is familiar with the SolarWinds Software for networks - then you know the company already.

Same people

anyhow - I love their stuff

We have had crashes that I have simply just turned up another node and flipped a restore from 15 minutes prior for sites ...

Awesome

Hey Ubiquity - we have a large DC - let me know if you want some offsite space for an emergency home if this happens again - or a good place for backups

Simple things like MySQL dumps can save your but I promise :-)

[900mhzdude]

Hey Ubiquity - we have a large DC - let me know if you want some offsite space for an emergency home if this happens again - or a good place for backups

Simple things like MySQL dumps can save your but I promise :-)

yes off site backups is a must

[900mhzdude]

We use and love www.R1soft.com
they are great to deal with.



will this work for backing up a merak mail server well its running?


I noticed mail.ubnt.com is Google mail witch is awesome!
wish that was out before we got merak...

but there mail was still down probably due to no backup MX records
come on mike you can at least have an on site DNS server
all you have to do is put ubuntu on a public IP lol

[wifi_guy]

So was this a loss on UBNT's end or did their hosting provider loose their data?

[Dave-D]

Hosting provider.

[900mhzdude]

yep,

I hope they got a new host like 1 that knows how to do back ups
we are just a tiny hosting place and back ups are #1
they should be banned from networking

[Rururudy]

I hope they got a new host like 1 that knows how to do back ups


We do hosting (come host with MonkeyBrains.net, UBNT), however, customers often colo their own boxes and don't do RAID or backups.

I noticed someone poo-pooing RAID. I'll disagree with that! RAID is just as critical as backups. Most disks die after a couple of years of service -- some earlier, some later. Having anything running on a single disk server is plain stupid (we get customers doing that all the time and then they think it is an emergency when their systems crash -- the emergency started when their IT department deemed single disk servers as a viable option).

cheap solution != same money in the long run.

So it comes down to: does ubnt.com manage their own servers, or do they farm it out, and if they are farm it out, are they taking the cheapest package?

[Dave-D]

'Rudy', I couldn't agree more. I've never
heard of a Web host that didn't run RAID5
or better. I have it in my own server that
only handles my office. And I provision it
for every client server I install.

I also make sure there's off-site tape backup
whenever I can make that happen.

Ubiquiti used a low-cost local Web host,
that clearly didn't even have the most
primitive kinds of data protection. It's a
travesty--they should be out of business.

But I would never suggest that a small
company host its own Web and related
public activities. It's a nightmare to provide
the broadband circuit, the equipment, the
data backup, the long-term power backup,
the data security and so on. A very bad idea. Dave

[u3b3rg33k]

Raid is a must. Out of the last 7 drives I purchased, my raid controller reported that 4 of them were below par. I can't imagine relying on a single drive that may be substandard out of the box.

Heck, I run enterprise grade raid 5 in my desktop, nevermind the servers (nothing like getting emails on sector remaps).
It might cost more up front, but single points of failure can be very painful. I learned that when the "dog ate my homework" in grade school - always have a backup! (a copy on the same partition doesn't count, by the way)

[Rururudy]

For my desktop, I usually slum it with software RAID. Grab old disks from the server room and plop them in my desktop.

Personally, I avoid off-site tape backup. Seems like too much hassle. I like spinning disk backup (disks are cheap, faster, and you don't have tapes). We use rsync to backup to another machine with a bunch of disks -- and usually just the config and data directories (logs and system binaries are excluded).

My favorite RAID controller: 3ware. CLI is pretty easy for that brand.

[Dave-D]

On my desktop, I use 15K SAS drives
in RAID0--I want the speed. All the
data is on the server. Dave