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Guys,
I would like to deploy an indoor Hotspot setup for laptops and smartphones. Since the only 2 product that can support 802.11 b/g/n is:
1) Rocket M2 or
2) Bullet M2
It's no brainer to install the Bullet M2 with an OMNI Antenna for a 1x1 n link.
I was thinking that maybe we can use the Rocket M2 for a 2x2 link using two 9dBi OMNI antenna attached.
1) Is this possible? (ie. will we get a 2x2 link)
2) Any inteference?
3) And will it provide better bandwidth or support more connections?
Thanks
UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-08-2010, 01:18 PM
Guys,
I would like to deploy an indoor Hotspot setup for laptops and smartphones. Since the only 2 product that can support 802.11 b/g/n is:
1) Rocket M2 or
2) Bullet M2
It's no brainer to install the Bullet M2 with an OMNI Antenna for a 1x1 n link.
I was thinking that maybe we can use the Rocket M2 for a 2x2 link using two 9dBi OMNI antenna attached.
1) Is this possible? (ie. will we get a 2x2 link)
2) Any inteference?
3) And will it provide better bandwidth or support more connections?
Thanks
Hello,
1. I do not recommend using Omni antennas with Rocket.
2. They can still self interfere if you have the Bullet and Rocket on the same channels.
3. The Rocket can support more user's, but only if they are all AirMax user's, if not you will be limited to about 30 users on each device.
Thanks,
Mike
Hello,
1. I do not recommend using Omni antennas with Rocket.
2. They can still self interfere if you have the Bullet and Rocket on the same channels.
3. The Rocket can support more user's, but only if they are all AirMax user's, if not you will be limited to about 30 users on each device.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike, we want to be future proof and new laptops are equiped with 802.11n. So the hotspot have to cater for it. Reason why the Rocket M2 (but with 2 OMNI ANTENNA).
Actually I've emailed you directly. Anyways.... this is the layout....
Laptops/Smartphones
|
ROCKET M2(IN AP MODE, with 2 x OMNI ANTENNA for cell coverage, 802.11 b/g/n)
|
Cross-Cable connecting NANO M5 and ROCKET M2
|
HOTSPOT-1
NANOSTATION M5 (IN AP WDS MODE, for bridging, 802.11 a/n)
|
WIRED POP with NANOSTATION/BULLET M5 (IN AP WDS MODE, for bridging, 802.11 a/n)
|
HOTSPOT-2
NANOSTATION M5 (IN AP WDS MODE, for bridging, 802.11 a/n)
|
Cross-Cable connecting NANO M5 and ROCKET M2
|
ROCKET M2(IN AP MODE, with 2 x OMNI ANTENNA for cell coverage, 802.11 b/g/n)
|
Laptops/Smartphones
The Bullet will be 5.8ghz with while the Rocket is 2.4ghz. Else what other suggestion? Maybe a Bullet M2 instead of the Rocket M2?
I would love to deploy PICOSTATION 2HP if it also support .11n
At a hotspot, 30 users per-AP is OK but what estimated bandwidth will per-user get?
UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-09-2010, 02:13 PM
Mike, we want to be future proof and new laptops are equiped with 802.11n. So the hotspot have to cater for it. Reason why the Rocket M2 (but with 2 OMNI ANTENNA).
Actually I've emailed you directly. Anyways.... this is the layout....
Laptops/Smartphones
|
ROCKET M2(IN AP MODE, with 2 x OMNI ANTENNA for cell coverage, 802.11 b/g/n)
|
Cross-Cable connecting NANO M5 and ROCKET M2
|
HOTSPOT-1
NANOSTATION M5 (IN AP WDS MODE, for bridging, 802.11 a/n)
|
WIRED POP with NANOSTATION/BULLET M5 (IN AP WDS MODE, for bridging, 802.11 a/n)
|
HOTSPOT-2
NANOSTATION M5 (IN AP WDS MODE, for bridging, 802.11 a/n)
|
Cross-Cable connecting NANO M5 and ROCKET M2
|
ROCKET M2(IN AP MODE, with 2 x OMNI ANTENNA for cell coverage, 802.11 b/g/n)
|
Laptops/Smartphones
The Bullet will be 5.8ghz with while the Rocket is 2.4ghz. Else what other suggestion? Maybe a Bullet M2 instead of the Rocket M2?
I would love to deploy PICOSTATION 2HP if it also support .11n
At a hotspot, 30 users per-AP is OK but what estimated bandwidth will per-user get?
Hello,
The bandwidth per customer depends upon a lot of factory, to many to give an accurate. It will be generally more then the pipe you have coming in to feed internet to the device.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike,
Can the Rocket M2 be used with a single 7dBi OMNI antenna ONLY for a single 1x1 link?
Scott@Wisp-Router
02-10-2010, 09:27 AM
Mike,
Can the Rocket M2 be used with a single 7dBi OMNI antenna ONLY for a single 1x1 link?
Why would you want to use a Rocket in that situation instead of the Bullet M2?
Why would you want to use a Rocket in that situation instead of the Bullet M2?
Agreed. Bullet M2 would be better.
Just curious with the Rocket? If the connector on the Rocket can actually be connected to 2 separate antenna with 180deg coverage covering opposite sides.
UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-10-2010, 03:29 PM
Agreed. Bullet M2 would be better.
Just curious with the Rocket? If the connector on the Rocket can actually be connected to 2 separate antenna with 180deg coverage covering opposite sides.
Hello,
The scenario you describe will not work with the Rocket.
Thanks,
Mike
Just curious with the Rocket? If the connector on the Rocket can actually be connected to 2 separate antenna with 180deg coverage covering opposite sides.No..no...no. MIMO antennas have to have similar coverage, although they can have different polarity.
Mike, we want to be future proof and new laptops are equiped with 802.11n. So the hotspot have to cater for it. Reason why the Rocket M2 (but with 2 OMNI ANTENNA).You would need a traditional "N" access point. If you notice, 802.11n or "N" or 802.11n or "N compatible" is never mentioned in any AirMax web page or data sheet, Only TDMA, polling, and MIMO. Just because it lists a Modulation and Coding Scheme (MCS) index values in the data sheet, does not means its 802.11n.
You would need a traditional "N" access point. If you notice, 802.11n or "N" or 802.11n or "N compatible" is never mentioned in any AirMax web page or data sheet, Only TDMA, polling, and MIMO. Just because it lists a Modulation and Coding Scheme (MCS) index values in the data sheet, does not means its 802.11n.
WHT,
I beg to differ, please take a look at the latest NSM2 (http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/nanoM2_DS.pdf), NSM5, BM2HP (http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/bm2hp_datasheet.pdf) and BM5HP, it does specify 802.11n.
So will BM2HP or for that matter any AirMax 802.11n work with standard 802.11n radios in laptops?
True (its mentined only in the side bar)...But look at the web pages, its not mentioned at all. That makes me suspect a lot of compatiblility.
UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-16-2010, 11:01 AM
Mike,
Without AirMax on, the units operate in standard 11ng or 11na, as with any Atheros chip in this family.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike,
To clarify... when the AirMax is OFF, the NanoStationM2 (2x2 chain) and BulletM2 (1x1 chain) is a normal 11n/g that can communicate with any 802.11n/g laptops or smartphones?
UBNT-Mike.Ford
02-16-2010, 12:40 PM
Mike,
To clarify... when the AirMax is OFF, the NanoStationM2 (2x2 chain) and BulletM2 (1x1 chain) is a normal 11n/g that can communicate with any 802.11n/g laptops or smartphones?
Hello,
Yes this is correct.
Thanks,
Mike
