Sawa-Wisp General Question

[sawa-wisp]

dear mike
I did with you a telephone chat in dubai if you remember that , by chance my friend was in dubai and he get me the chance to talk with you on phone .
as general Sawa-wisp is new WISP in Gaza and we using 2.4 equipment and use the 2.4 gears from ubnt but we are facing problems that related to the 2.4 frequency noisy environment SO we turn to air max ...
so what I'm going to ask deeply is :
1- IS air max product is suitable to be deployed for heavy duty wi-fi ISP ?
2- Why you using the WDS mode in the explaining of Airmax practice . ?
3- We will run high no of client per one station the station consider 3 sector antenna and 3 rocket M ... so give to me professional scenario for deployment .
mohammed almes-hal
Sawa Wisp
Gaza Strip

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

dear mike
I did with you a telephone chat in dubai if you remember that , by chance my friend was in dubai and he get me the chance to talk with you on phone .
as general Sawa-wisp is new WISP in Gaza and we using 2.4 equipment and use the 2.4 gears from ubnt but we are facing problems that related to the 2.4 frequency noisy environment SO we turn to air max ...
so what I'm going to ask deeply is :
1- IS air max product is suitable to be deployed for heavy duty wi-fi ISP ?
2- Why you using the WDS mode in the explaining of Airmax practice . ?
3- We will run high no of client per one station the station consider 3 sector antenna and 3 rocket M ... so give to me professional scenario for deployment .
mohammed almes-hal
Sawa Wisp
Gaza Strip

Hello,

1. Yes, with AirMax turned on, it is deployable for a heavy duty Wifi deployment.

2. I say use WDS as it creates a transparent bridge, so you can do all of your backend routing over the link without fear of the MAC/Packet data being stripped.

3. We do not provide complete network infrastructure guidance, as you will need a local consultant for this.

Thanks,

[sawa-wisp]

thanks mike >>>
sure ubiquitiy now is the standard for wi-fi deployment but I have a little question ?
Can we use Air Grid as CPE for the Rocket M base station and use all the features in the AIR MAX protocol ?
Also if we can use AirGrid as CPE if it possible to do that with Nano Bridge ?
mohammed almes-hal
Sawa Wisp

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

thanks mike >>>
sure ubiquitiy now is the standard for wi-fi deployment but I have a little question ?
Can we use Air Grid as CPE for the Rocket M base station and use all the features in the AIR MAX protocol ?
Also if we can use AirGrid as CPE if it possible to do that with Nano Bridge ?
mohammed almes-hal
Sawa Wisp

Hello,
1. Yes AirGrid is compatible with AirMax protocol.

2. Same goes for NanoBridge.

Thanks,

Mike

[sawa-wisp]

aha...
So mike ... when I'm looking in the ubnt AirMax product I have to ask two questions ?
1- Why ubnt is cheep even these products can be sold over 4x of there prices ?
2- why ubnt doesn't combine these quality product into one major WISP product like Wavion company that have base station solution to ISP ?

ok ...
now I have some questions which is technical more ..
1- what is potential grounding system that I may use if I deploy 3 air max base station in single tower ?
2- Is air Control is certified enough to meet ISP requirement , Control monitoring and other issues ?
thanks
mohammed

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

aha...
So mike ... when I'm looking in the ubnt AirMax product I have to ask two questions ?
1- Why ubnt is cheep even these products can be sold over 4x of there prices ?
2- why ubnt doesn't combine these quality product into one major WISP product like Wavion company that have base station solution to ISP ?

ok ...
now I have some questions which is technical more ..
1- what is potential grounding system that I may use if I deploy 3 air max base station in single tower ?
2- Is air Control is certified enough to meet ISP requirement , Control monitoring and other issues ?
thanks
mohammed

1. We can charge more but choose not to.
2. We have a bastation product, RocketM with a Rocket Sectors.

3. All grounding is handled as any standard installation. Antennas are grounded to your tower, the Rocekt's are grounded using Shielded Ethernet cable down to a grounded PoE.
4. AirControl is not certified to do anything. It is a network monitoring program that allows you to see all UBNT devices on your network, and provides a way to monitor them.

Mike

[WHT]

Q1. Why ubnt is cheep
A1. "Disruptive" pricing advantage over older "gotcha by the balls" pricing model.

Q2. Why ubnt doesn't combine these quality product into one major WISP product
A1. In what sense???

Q3. What is potential grounding system that I may use if I deploy 3 air max base station in single tower ?
A3. Same grounding practices as if you mounted just one radio.

Q4. Is air Control is certified enough to meet ISP requirement , Control monitoring and other issues ?
A4. Name me just ONE certification standard.

[sawa-wisp]

thank for you Mike and WHT for these fruitful information that you posted for me ????
I will post to within 10 days the deployment of Air Max product in Sawa-wisp and let you know the results .
mohammed

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

thank for you Mike and WHT for these fruitful information that you posted for me ????
I will post to within 10 days the deployment of Air Max product in Sawa-wisp and let you know the results .
mohammed

Hello,

I look forward to the results.

Thanks,

Mike

[sawa-wisp]

mike ???
these my questions ...
1- Is AirGrid M is suitable for Point to point deployment and what is the potential link range and capacity ? and if it deployed as PTP is it meet the carrier class category ?
2- As CPE for the Rocket M base station what you chose for optimal CPE the NanoStation M or AirGrid or NanoBridge ?
3- In standard wifi there is problem call Defense which is the problem that signal is high but now data transfer Is the AirMax product will overcome this problem ?
4- Our Deployment of AirMax will be for Long Rang Heavy Duty ISP could you please advice me Is it will be more beneficial to deployed the three sector at the same frequency or each sector have it own frequency ?
mohammed almes-hal
Sawa Wisp

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

mike ???
these my questions ...
1- Is AirGrid M is suitable for Point to point deployment and what is the potential link range and capacity ? and if it deployed as PTP is it meet the carrier class category ?
2- As CPE for the Rocket M base station what you chose for optimal CPE the NanoStation M or AirGrid or NanoBridge ?
3- In standard wifi there is problem call Defense which is the problem that signal is high but now data transfer Is the AirMax product will overcome this problem ?
4- Our Deployment of AirMax will be for Long Rang Heavy Duty ISP could you please advice me Is it will be more beneficial to deployed the three sector at the same frequency or each sector have it own frequency ?
mohammed almes-hal
Sawa Wisp

Hello,

1. I would not recommend AirGrid for PTP. For PTP I would use NanoBridge or RocketDish.

2. For optimal performance a 2x2 Mimo device (NanoBridge, RocketM, NanoM) will give far better performance, but at a higher procie.

3. I am not sure what you mean, please elaborate.

4. Each sector should have its own frequency.

Thanks,

Mike

[sawa-wisp]

hi mike
thanks for your information
I'm going to explain to you the problem of defness in points
1- At the AP side all things ok
2- At the station side the signal quality is between -50-to-68 dbm the Rx and Tx rate is average But there is no internet connection when noise immunity is on the ping is returned but there is no internet . I think this is due to noise .
but this is only in 2.4 I think in 5.8 it's not present .

Question ????
I think ubiquiti design the AirGrid to be the Suitable CPE for the RocketM base station but how is the AirGrid will work with AirMax 2X2 if it not meet this catageory ? and if it work as you told me befor the is it wil give the custoumer internet speed with stable and real data rate
mohammed
sawa-wisp