Chicago

[mhammett]

Who all is going?

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Who all is going?

I will be there....

[opampca]

Na..
I'm waiting for the Montreal event.. :-)

[WHT]

The last conference I attended...ummm, lets just say I was young (thirty-five years ago), loved my beer and a horse in the sixth floor hallway of a hotel was hard to explain.

[jk53]

There doesn't seem to be much info on what we would learn at this conference. If anyone can point me to info other than Date and Place, let me know.

[UBNT-Ben]

Hi Guys,

You can find details here:

http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12806

Thanks,
Ben

[TheDoC]

I will be there

[Griminal]

Only a two hour drive for me. I might show up. Tell me, will there be any of that hard-to-find M2 gear for sale on site?

[UBNT-Ben]

The BulletM2 is available and shipping. The other M2 products are not shipping as of yet.

Thanks,
Ben

[pdinoto]

Who all is going?

Attending Chicago, all the way from Córdoba, Argentina.

Does anybody beat that?

See all you there,
///Pablo

[UBNT-Ben]

Hey Pablo,

Sounds great! Make sure you bring some alfajores, Mogul's and Mate! ;-)

Regards,
Ben

[pdinoto]

Hey Pablo,

Sounds great! Make sure you bring some alfajores, Mogul's and Mate! ;-)

Regards,
Ben

Alfajores! Our most valued export! Of course!

Not sure about mate... I can imagine myself spending two weeks on long sessions with TSA folks explaining what yerba mate is. :-)

[UBNT-Ben]

Can't beat a little Mate de bombilla...Empanadas, milanesa, asado....Already hungry...

[ajaywi]

with only an hour drive.. Ill be there! :)

[smalltownwireless]

I am coming from Fond du Lac WI. It is about a 3 hour drive figuring in traffic. Looking forward to the conference. Can I bring my week old two dead Nanostation 5M's? They both went out right after I crawled into bed. It is kind of fun climbing towers at night. :-P Love the 2.4ghz hardware. Having a tough start with the new 5ghz Nano's.

Thank you for having the conference.

Ben Frost
Holyland Wifi
Smalltown Wireless

[VoiceNet]

Hi,

I will be leaving Oshawa, Ontario on Wednesday at around 9:30am, I hope the drive isn't that bad.

The passenger seat is already taken, but I have two back seats available in the matrix. If you are interested, please e-mail me... norm at voicenetwork.ca

Norm
Voice Network Inc.

[wisptec2]

I will be there

[jjllc]

I will be there

[yeow]

Take some videos and share with us

[pedecana]

I'll be there.Im from Brazil, hey Pablo my friend see u there :D!!!

[Jayson]

I'm here already.

[westbywest]

I am attending from St. Louis, MO on behalf of the WasabiNet mesh project (http://gowasabi.net)

[xphat]

Attending from Jamaica.

Just got to the hotel just now... Just got into my room... freaking 12.95 for internet access... sheeesh... UBNT needs to refund this ;)

Anyhow, im hoping some other people who are here for the conference, maybe we could meet up somewhere for a meet and greet kinda thing, ill go walking the halls in a minute! :)

[roc-noc.com]

Only 12.95 for Internet? I guess you haven't seen the parking lot fees yet.

See you there.

Tom

[xphat]

thats just for one day :|

Im in from jamaica, parking isnt really an issue, i didnt drive here :P

[wisptec2]

I up here now too. got in about 1.5 hours ago.
I am staying at the radisson, just up the road . if any one is here hit me up pm me, or email my cell at elijah at wisptec.com

Eli

[agsweeney]

Well, last minute change of plans - beans need to come out of the fields and that takes priority.

[WHT]

Well, last minute change of plans - beans need to come out of the fields and that takes priority.Why do you think I choose ranching over farming?

[pdinoto]

Really nice to meet you guys. Interesting to see the people behind the products.

Thanks Ben, Mike, Robert and the rest of the team.

[pdinoto]

...lots of people were missing you, WHT :-)

[rconaway]

Geez, and nobody missed me? My feelings are hurt. Good thing I have therapy scheduled tonight.

[Dave-D]

Isn't ranching the same as farming,
only you have to find some expensive
and hungry animals to eat your crops?

[WHT]

...lots of people were missing you, WHT :-)What worries me is their aim might approve....

[wisptec2]

Well were to start, Go UBNT!!! You guys are brutally honest (really nice to see). I speak for my self and my company. that we will stick with UBNT thur there growing pains with there supply chain. Nice demo mike well put together. I like air control, can't wait to try it on the networks. I would like to say UBNT STAFF you guy are doing a good job and keep up the good work. Had a GRATE time would love to do it again.

Thanks
Eli

PS. WHT really missed you a lot of people were talking about you hope to put a face to WHT one day.

[along5664]

Had a great day at the event. We wil be using the gear as long as you keep making it. Thanks again to the UBNT group for putting on this show.

[roc-noc.com]

I just want to say thanks to Ben, John, Mike, Robert, and Thomas.

It was a worthy event. You guys did a great job. It is rare that you can meet the founder, engineers, and supporting crew at one event. To hear them speak honestly and ask for our input and ideas was a surprise and appreciated by all of us attending.

I think they listened and I hope to see the results soon.

I am proud to be reselling your products.

Many thanks,

Tom

[mhammett]

Are we going to see the PowerPoints on here?

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Are we going to see the PowerPoints on here?


Hey Guys,

Thanks for the compliments. The PowerPoints I am trying to get up, but its difficult when travelling. I will be in Europe shortly, but in the meantime I will try and get them to you.

Thanks,

Mike

[staackjt]

Thank you to the folks at UBNT for a very informative conference.

To hear a founder be so honest about his company was very refreshing. The story of how it all got started is something that should be summarized on the about-us page. In my opinion it is a story that appeals to the DIY nature of WISP operators.

The demonstration setup you did for AirMax was awesome. I'm sold...(radius would be the icing for us though)

I am personally going to wait to try the management software. I would have had my mind blown if you had released a set of probes and scripts for The Dude ;)

A suggestion for the Q&A...Repeat the questions, it was hard for those of us in the back to hear...The mouth is unidirectional :)

Thank You again for good conference!

[mhammett]

oh yeah, all the signs at the conference (and the web site and...) show 125 mbps, but Mike's lovely demo only showed what, 112 or so?

[Jayson]

oh yeah, all the signs at the conference (and the web site and...) show 125 mbps, but Mike's lovely demo only showed what, 112 or so?

Are you complaining about 112 megs out of an $89 radio?

[wisptec2]

"112 megs out of an $89 radio?"

I will take those #s any day!!
:ubnt_banana:

[mhammett]

Are you complaining about 112 megs out of an $89 radio?

No, but I'd like to hold any vendor's feet to the fire about what they advertise. If you advertise a 150 meg radio, I want to buy a 150 meg radio. Saying 100 meg would have been just as big of a leap, and made people more happy when it did more than advertised.

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

oh yeah, all the signs at the conference (and the web site and...) show 125 mbps, but Mike's lovely demo only showed what, 112 or so?


Hello,

125 to 150Mbps is point to point applications, and/or heavily loaded PTMP AP. If you noticed, every test that I added more clients the throughput was going up. I can only get 11 user's (limited by space and shipping costs) in this portable setup, but steadily as the user count increases the aggregate throughput at the AP goes up.

Thanks,

MIke

[UBNT-Robert]

Guys --

Kind of hard to find, but we have marketed PtMP at 100Mbps+ and PtP at 150+Mpbs with M series...

take a look here...

http://ubnt.com/products/basestation.php

[rconaway]

Marketing is such a subject field. At this point, manufacturers don't really have a standard like stereo manufacturers so you have to read all the information.

For example, when Vivato first came out, they bragged 1000 users, 13 streams, 11Mbps. The reality was, 1000 users was how many MAC addresses they could store, you couldn't run more than 3 seperate channels simultaneously meaning 150 users (it had 11 or 13 radios in the base unit), and you couldn't use more than 30mw without causing cross-channel interference.

SkyPIlot came out saying their radios could do 20Mbps. The reality was, they only supported that under UDP, a standard that nobody else was using for marketing. Under TCP/IP, 10Mbps was the realistic throughput. You had to dig through the white papers to find that though. That wasn't anywhere in their documentation.

So, getting to this last issue, 150Mbps. My first reaction is that is a single computer to computer transfer rate. The reality is that's under load of multiple computers transferring data. That part caught me off guard also. Most of us will be using these radios to handle one household talking to a tower. Therefore the number is accurate in AP mode, but not really realistic for the client mode since not a lot of my clients have 11 computers in their house.

Probably the best thing to do is to clarify that in the brochure. However, I think there is still some tweaking in the firmware to do to improve single data transfer rates and optimization for video traffic in both TCP/IP and UDP. Firetide and Tropos have made some pretty impressive strides in that area as their products were out.

[mhammett]

Marketing is such a subject field. At this point, manufacturers don't really have a standard like stereo manufacturers so you have to read all the information.

For example, when Vivato first came out, they bragged 1000 users, 13 streams, 11Mbps. The reality was, 1000 users was how many MAC addresses they could store, you couldn't run more than 3 seperate channels simultaneously meaning 150 users (it had 11 or 13 radios in the base unit), and you couldn't use more than 30mw without causing cross-channel interference.

SkyPIlot came out saying their radios could do 20Mbps. The reality was, they only supported that under UDP, a standard that nobody else was using for marketing. Under TCP/IP, 10Mbps was the realistic throughput. You had to dig through the white papers to find that though. That wasn't anywhere in their documentation.

So, getting to this last issue, 150Mbps. My first reaction is that is a single computer to computer transfer rate. The reality is that's under load of multiple computers transferring data. That part caught me off guard also. Most of us will be using these radios to handle one household talking to a tower. Therefore the number is accurate in AP mode, but not really realistic for the client mode since not a lot of my clients have 11 computers in their house.

Probably the best thing to do is to clarify that in the brochure. However, I think there is still some tweaking in the firmware to do to improve single data transfer rates and optimization for video traffic in both TCP/IP and UDP. Firetide and Tropos have made some pretty impressive strides in that area as their products were out.

After Robert's post, I did notice the different numbers for different uses. According to Mike's demonstration, you can indeed get more than 100 megs in PtMP. Now I realize that 150 megs applied to PtP links.

[gjvrieze]

First post here. Long time lurker for info, but after going to the Chicago AirMax conference, I figured it was time to register.

First, I loved the conference, and thought all of the products looked great. I am excited for everything to come out.

Also, I cannot believe you guys that complain about speeds a on a product which is not even completely developed in terms of software. I think that the speeds are really great at this price point and am not all disappointed.

Thanks to EVERYONE from Ubiquiti who made the trip to Chicago, nice job!