BulletM2 AP Bandwith Control

[Aveyer]

Hey all. Thinking of going for a BulletM2 as an AP but does the new AirOS V5 have bandwith controls to limit the down/up speeds of each connected client?

Thanks.

[cwnetwork]

well , it does have the same traffic shaping options in the advanced tab as the other models (older AirOs).
one thing i do miss is the inbuilt bandwidth test , but this is so innacurate at the moment they left it out ....

[WHT]

Its at the bottom of the screen under the Advanced tab.

[Aveyer]

Sorry, should have been clearer, when the Bullet is in AP mode are the bandwidth throttling options available then?(to limit the speed of connected clients instead of limiting in the client CPE)

[Aveyer]

Sorry to be pushing this but could someone confirm what I posted above? I have to decide very soon whether to use the BulletM2 as an AP.

Thanks.

[cwnetwork]

They are available both station and AP modes , it can be configured just like before on older airOS (regular bullets , nanos , powerstations etc).

[opampca]

They are available in AP mode also, but what I can't tell, is if the restriction applied, let's say 2.5Mbps, to the totality of the clients, or to each client connected.
Anyone used it ?

[WHT]

If its set at the AP end, it would affect all clients as there is no way for the AP to discriminate between clients, in other words there is no client list.

[Aveyer]

Hmm, guess I'll have to put the Bullet AP in bridge mode then and get a Mikrotik routerboard to route/throttle speeds or just limit it in the client CPE, thanks.

[george]

If its set at the AP end, it would affect all clients as there is no way for the AP to discriminate between clients, in other words there is no client list.With MikroTik it is possible to set the default bandwidth available to each client, both downstream and upstream, in the wireless settings at the AP. You can then override this setting for an indivdual client in the Access List at the AP.

This is an incredibly useful tool and I would love to see UBNT implement it in AirOS V.

George

[Aveyer]

So it is possible to throttle the clients bandwidth without lowering the clients tx/rx rates with Mikrotik Routerboard?

Thanks.

[george]

Correct. This is a graphical front end that sets up some queues behind the curtains, not by messing with RF rates. Its just a nice simple gui for something that can be scripted anyway. Its also a very simple method of limiting clients from not being able to grab the entire bandwidth available at the AP...

George

[lncommunications]

Am I right in thinking, simply put, "Per user bandwidth throttling"?

...if so yes it would be a nice feature!

In our case at the moment our gateway boxes along with RADIUS handle the throttling.

[george]

Yes, this setting is a global default for each wireless interface that behaves exactly like a radius bandwidth control setting. Note that it is a default, and can be tuned at the access list level on a per user basis.

We have steered clear so far of PPPoE because it can be flaky in a big wireless environment. This needs a little more configuration, but its bulletproof (pun intended) in operation.

I see the new M series working very well in an MT router environment.

George

[lncommunications]

We use a fully transparent network (WDS) with a captive portal + RADIUS using MAC auth and WISPr attributes, like you we have steered clear of PPPoE.

[george]

Gotcha, we're about 115 POPs in a routed environment. About 800 advertised subnets at last count.

[BryMonday]

I set the AP QOS to about 90% of the available bandwidth i.e if I have 10Mb available on the backhaul to the AP I set the AP QOS to 9Mb downstream so the cpe's don't choke the connection. I then control each individual users bandwidth through their radio (cpe) QOS settings. It works fine.




Bryon
BreezeAir.net

[george]

I set the AP QOS to about 90% of the available bandwidth i.e if I have 10Mb available on the backhaul to the AP I set the AP QOS to 9Mb downstream so the cpe's don't choke the connection. I then control each individual users bandwidth through their radio (cpe) QOS settings. It works fine.
Bryon
BreezeAir.net
I'm not fond of setting bandwidth restrictions on the radio side at a client. If they get a virus you are pretty much pooched. Much better to have control over the Ethernet interface... IMO.

[shapiros]

Are you saying, if the radio gets a virus? What am I missing?

As far as bandwidth goes, why not simply limit the CPE bandwidth and let something like a NetEqualizer/Packeteer do the rest for you?

george, what do you not like about setting the client's device to correlate with the bandwidth plan they have purchased?

Sig