User guesses as to what Airmax/AirOS V all about

[davey]

I thought it would be fun if we could all guess what this big release is going to be about!

You don't need to deny or confirm, but my guess is:

Airmax is polling with high subs per AP
Aggregation is something along the lines of framer in NStreme

I just want to put my guess on record!

Come on guys, what's your guess?

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

I thought it would be fun if we could all guess what this big release is going to be about!

You don't need to deny or confirm, but my guess is:

Airmax is polling with high subs per AP
Aggregation is something along the lines of framer in NStreme

I just want to put my guess on record!

Come on guys, what's your guess?


Hello,

Aggregation is actually part of the 11n protocol, as it aggregates frame packets. Nothing fancy.

Airmax - Ill let you know on that one.

Thanks,
Mike

[drwho17]

It is polling, it fits. I wish they would just say what it entails, as this could make a difference for us, as to what direction we head in the near future. We've got buildouts moving along, and at this point it isn't too late for us to change direction, once we populate the sectors it will be a long road for us to migrate.

Please release the exact details of how the devices function, so that WISP's can develop a plan for the future. Right now I have Alvarion wimax gear in, and we are investigating it, not because I'm expecting miracles with 3.65 wimax, but because of the polling protocol and the ability for us to offer reliable voice service and scalability per sector. This is a natural evolution for WISP's to increase their average revenue per user (ARPU).

[anthony24x]

My vote is for polling also... based on the little hints I've seen

[WHT]

Polling? I must have missed them hints.

[anthony24x]

HA! Thats not a give away :)

[MaximumISP]

Obviously it has inter-galactic solar flair syncing abilities
but
I am guessing its features are being kept hush hush
until the routerstation pro has a shipping os

Me thinks the full feature set may require the extra ponies

[WHT]

No, but GPS synchronization of the APs would be a nice feature.

[masked]

definitely, any sort of sync would be great, even if it were just ntp.

[rconaway]

No, but GPS synchronization of the APs would be a nice feature.

WHT, NDA, NDA.......

[masked]

No, but GPS synchronization of the APs would be a nice feature.

WHT, NDA, NDA.......

WoW, all these acronyms!

[WHT]

WHT, NDA, NDA.......
Oppsss....my bad. Oh well, press release will be ready in a few days.

[rconaway]

You already spilled what Ubiquiti orders for company lunch on Tuesday. You should change your name to NE for National Equirer. Next thing you know, you are going to spill the beans on the Bullet M picking up satellite TV next. Oops.

[masked]

AP: We have confirmation on the satellite TV thing!

[WHT]

Oh...that reminds me, Rory...check yer PM about the Bullet M5 in full "N" mode 40 MHz on spit channel 5.2625 GHz triggering 10 GHz police radar at eleven miles.

[masked]

oh, what was the topic again? i like the 'road-angel'

[rconaway]

11 miles? You must have the power turned down. Since the government took over GM and put a car Czar in place who knows as much about cars as I do about international travel, we have been in negotiations with General Motors to use the new Bullets as next generation spark ion plasma plugs. Although I know the Mike is going to announce this in a few days, we are claiming that using the Bullets at 43dBm output atomizes the fuel so efficiently that gas mileage goes up to 100mpg. After I got the car Czar to quit drooling on the contract with those numbers, I watched him call Al Gore and Obama to brag how his first deal would bring back GM. We also told him that simultaneously you get the side benefit of Internet radio by plugging the cat-5 connector into the cigarette jack. What we didn't mention is that a DDOS attack could be devastating at 80mph.

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

With my BulletM powered Mustang, I accidently went back in time when I hit 88Mph...AirMax is the new time travel.

Mike

[jesterz]

@ UBNT-Mike
I see... So you WERE able to get the M to function as a make shift flux capacitor. With you zipping back and forth through the time continuum like that... How old are you really?

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

@ UBNT-Mike
I see... So you WERE able to get the M to function as a make shift flux capacitor. With you zipping back and forth through the time continuum like that... How old are you really?

67 - now if I can only get this phone booth to take me back in time with AirMax...

[rconaway]

Do you have a school report due or should I call the Doctor (2 references, 1 sentence). How's that for efficiency. The question is which movies and/TV show?

[jesterz]

For the grand prize... "Back to the Future" and "Doctor Who"!!! Ding, Ding, Ding... Jumping up and down excitedly... Confetti and balloons falling all around... Crowd going wild... Woohoo!

[rconaway]

I'm here to tell you 1/2 wrong. Bummer, any other takers? Hold the c
confetti.

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

I'm here to tell you 1/2 wrong. Bummer, any other takers? Hold the c
confetti.

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and Dr Who :)

[rconaway]

You rock. That's why you are in charge.

[WHT]

Bill and Ted's adventure was excellent, but keeping track of Doctor Who's reincarnations is as bad as keeping track of the AirOs naming conventions.

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Bill and Ted's adventure was excellent, but keeping track of Doctor Who's reincarnations is as bad as keeping track of the AirOs naming conventions.

Did you see your new software and the new naming convesntion? Its an invidvidual file for all M products 2 and 5 Ghz alike :) and its named XM-V5.0

Mike

[WHT]

Well...at least Robert made good on my suggestion during the meeting. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[masked]

Am I correct in understanding that now you have achieved time travel with the BulletM, you can in fact transmit data faster than the speed of light and the only thing holding back the throughput in the physical components converting it back to wired ethernet?

edit: p.s.: I like the fact that you made use of my initials 'MV' in the naming :twisted:

[osnet]

Well polling comes with more bandwidth and inregular latency

11 Miles wireless link with Bullet M and Air max

10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=22 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=18 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=6 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=24 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=9 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=7 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=6 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=5 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=3 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=17 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=10 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=13 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=13 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=5 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=15 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=15 ms
45 packets transmitted, 45 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 3/14.1/52 ms
[jsepulveda@OSN.Collores] >

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Well polling comes with more bandwidth and inregular latency

11 Miles wireless link with Bullet M and Air max

10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=22 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=18 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=6 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=24 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=9 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=7 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=6 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=5 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=3 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=17 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=10 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=13 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=13 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=5 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=15 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=15 ms
45 packets transmitted, 45 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 3/14.1/52 ms
[jsepulveda@OSN.Collores] >

Hello,

Please post your results after stepping down from the 40Mhz channel, as you said you had heavy interference in your area.

Thanks,

[masked]

if that is due to the polling some qos can fix it right up. doubtfully wmm, but real qos. might be worthwhile trialing nbd's qos-scripts for openwrt in there mike (i know i will if need be).

[osnet]

Mike,

The issue was the ACK I do fixed and after that I changed to auto and latency it's 1ms,2ms,3ms and in some occasions 10ms like Mikrotik Nstream. More constant.

10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=4 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=3 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=1 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=24 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=2 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=2 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=13 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=1 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=3 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=1 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=12 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=3 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=1 ms
10.16.36.4 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=2 ms
37 packets transmitted, 37 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 1/4.8/24 ms

[raytaylor]

So if this is polling, and we use a bullet M ap with polling enabled, will it work properly with nano 2's as clients or would they need to have a polling feature as well or be replaced with bullet m's as clients?

[drwho17]

So if this is polling, and we use a bullet M ap with polling enabled, will it work properly with nano 2's as clients or would they need to have a polling feature as well or be replaced with bullet m's as clients?
You would probably need a compatible CPE, if it's like other polling systems, all the clients would need to be able to support the protocol in order for it to be ran. I would expect Nano2 M's coming along soon.

[osnet]

Yeap, that it's the new comming product line of M Series.... Like BMW M.... jajajaja.

[Dave-D]

In my ignorance, I've gotta make a stab:

This is my guess about AirMAX: it's a strategy for
handling bandwidth by managing traffic flows. Of
course, that includes QoS; so it will be an
implementation of IEEE 802.11e.

Call it 'intelligent spectrum control'. And it might
even include a spectrum analyzer. Dave

[rconaway]

Sorry Dave. You lose. Thanks for playing.

As for polling, if Airmax supported that, the clients would also have to support it. Since poliing is not part of the 802.11n protocol, that would be considered proprietary.

[drwho17]

In my ignorance, I've gotta make a stab:

This is my guess about AirMAX: it's a strategy for
handling bandwidth by managing traffic flows. Of
course, that includes QoS; so it will be an
implementation of IEEE 802.11e.

Call it 'intelligent spectrum control'. And it might
even include a spectrum analyzer. Dave
They already have 802.11e built in to the existing units.

[masked]

Mmm, so when is the RadioDriver w/ AirMax going to be released and is there going to be a Windows port? :D

[masked]

if that is due to the polling some qos can fix it right up. doubtfully wmm, but real qos. might be worthwhile trialing nbd's qos-scripts for openwrt in there mike (i know i will if need be).

i've given this some further thought and if the throughput monitoring is up to scratch then the up/down settings in the qos scripts could become dynamic variables. i gave it even more thought, but after a hard weekend there was some memory loss.

anywho, i'll give it a try for that and other reasons when i get some bm's

[UBNT-Mike.Ford]

Mmm, so when is the RadioDriver w/ AirMax going to be released and is there going to be a Windows port? :D

No and No.

Thanks,

Mike

[masked]

oh really? doh! i was hoping there would be some capabilities for such to fall back onto devices such as laptops for increased mobility!

[george]

Likewise. A nice present for a Friday afternoon. Life is good. We have been drooling over the pdfs.

George

[WHT]

Good...now ya'll can stop calling me a smug git.