New network questions

[wifi_madness]

Hi there everyone -

I am gathering information on what I will need to run a new WISP.

What network equipment is needed to support the back bone
and core infrastructure ?

How are the IPs handled, DHCP server ?

I currently have:

RB411A - Ap
RB411 - CPE
XR5 and XR9 and some NanoStation 5

What do I need to look at for equipment from the ISP
pipe to the APs ??

Thanks

[WHT]

The first thing to consider is are you going up against an incumbent telco's DSL or cable provider?

[Willtech]

You will want to have an estimate with the amount of people you will be servicing. Then you will also want to take a look at what dedicated services are available in the area and the speeds that you are going to want to offer.

[wifi_madness]

The first thing to consider is are you going up against an incumbent telco's DSL or cable provider?

No one is in the area that offers BB..

Its all dial up.

I will have only about 200 uses to start.

I am going to have a few bonded Ts per location.

I have the Ap and CPE gear as stated so I would like to know what are
my options on the backend network wise between the ISP router and
what my APs can plug into.

[WHT]

T1 line -> T1 demux unit -> your router -> backhaul headend ~~> backhaul tailend -> switch -> APs

[wifi_madness]

T1 line -> T1 demux unit -> your router -> backhaul headend ~~> backhaul tailend -> switch -> APs


I will have the T1 from the ISP router. Then what UB products are between
this and the AP ?

Do I need to provide a switch for the APs to plug into ?

Or what else do I need in between there ?

Thanks

[WHT]

You can use Bullet or Bullet HP 5 Gig radios for the backhaul radios. And 28 or so dBi dishes at both ends.

[wifi_madness]

You can use Bullet or Bullet HP 5 Gig radios for the backhaul radios. And 28 or so dBi dishes at both ends.

What model or type of network equipment should I look at to plug my
radio / AP into ?

cpe - AP - radio - ethernet - ?? ISP router

I indicated at the start of the thread what I have for hardware.
This stuff was given to me so I need to figure out what I can use for the
networking portion after the AP / Radio and connect this to my ISP router.

Are you saying the Bullet or HP 5 gig radios connect directly to the ISP router ??

Thanks

[WHT]

BTW...You have to have at least two ports on the router, one for you AP and one for your mirror server.

[Willtech]

If you have several APs trying to connect to one router I would suggest that you have a managed switch. A relatively inexpensive one would be a dlink, I recently bought one off of ebay for $15. It is a managed 24 port switch with 2 GigE Copper/Fiber SFP ports. You can get away with an unmanaged switch but it may be helpfull for you to see how much bandwidth is being used and the ports.

[wifi_madness]

BTW...You have to have at least two ports on the router, one for you AP and one for your mirror server.

What does the mirror server consist of ?

What is the purpose and function ?

Thanks

[wifi_madness]

If you have several APs trying to connect to one router I would suggest that you have a managed switch. A relatively inexpensive one would be a dlink, I recently bought one off of ebay for $15. It is a managed 24 port switch with 2 GigE Copper/Fiber SFP ports. You can get away with an unmanaged switch but it may be helpfull for you to see how much bandwidth is being used and the ports.


I know switches and routers but what sets a managed one apart from the reset ?

What requirements do I need to ensure it supports ?

I am trying to get the topology in my head.

I would take a port from the ISP supplied router into the switch and the APs into the switch ??

Is there any thing in particular I need to configure or setup..ie vlans trucking ??

Thanks

[WHT]

What does the mirror server consist of ?

What is the purpose and function ?
It allows you to capture all the traffic that goes in and out of your network, its like an eavesdropping tap. Actually that's EXACTLY what it is.

[wifi_madness]

What does the mirror server consist of ?

What is the purpose and function ?
It allows you to capture all the traffic that goes in and out of your network, its like an eavesdropping tap. Actually that's EXACTLY what it is.

How do I go about setting this up ?

Is it PC based windows ?

What is involved ?

Thanks

[WHT]

How do I go about setting this up ?

Is it PC based windows ?

What is involved ?


Use a managed switch that mirrors the data to a computer running your favorite flavor of the month distro, and load OpenCALEA-lite. Once its running, file Form 477 with the FCC. Don't forget FCC Form 445 on March and September 1st of each year.

[wifi_madness]

If you have several APs trying to connect to one router I would suggest that you have a managed switch. A relatively inexpensive one would be a dlink, I recently bought one off of ebay for $15. It is a managed 24 port switch with 2 GigE Copper/Fiber SFP ports. You can get away with an unmanaged switch but it may be helpfull for you to see how much bandwidth is being used and the ports.

So when you indicate a managed that would be one you can access via the net to watch you stats and perform admin work as well ??

Did you feed your switch's Gig port with fiber ?

I believe my ISP only has 100M ethernet hand offs from their router.

What other features should I ensure it has for my utilization ??

What model is your Dlink ?

[Willtech]

A managed switch gives you the ability to see the port utilization, cpu utilization and many other parameters of your switch. I currently have it feed by a cable modem to provide internet bandwidth to my network. It will really depend if the hand off is copper or fiber. You can use either method to connect to the switch. Below is a link to the switch:

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=298

It is model DES-3226L

[wifi_madness]

A managed switch gives you the ability to see the port utilization, cpu utilization and many other parameters of your switch. I currently have it feed by a cable modem to provide internet bandwidth to my network. It will really depend if the hand off is copper or fiber. You can use either method to connect to the switch. Below is a link to the switch:

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=298

It is model DES-3226L

Are you using a NetEqualizer or anything for shaping ?

[Willtech]

I'm currently using it in a test environment and I only have a couple people on it. At this time I do not have any traffic shaping set up. When I start to role things out I will probably start using it.

[thewisperer]

i have this setup

dsl provider to Mikrotik router to Pentium 4 with Ipcop to switch to ap's

its nice to be able to afford a Neteaqualizer or Ipoque unit to do bandwith shapping but Ipcop is free and works ok